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Mountain Lions Pop Up Again in Half Moon Bay

The Sheriff's Office and Department of Fish and Game are stepping in.

 

Two mountain lion cubs made their second appearance in less than 24 hours in Half Moon Bay on Saturday afternoon, San Mateo county emergency officials said.

The pair of cubs were seen at 12:31 p.m. near San Benito and Miramontes 
streets, emergency officials said.

The San Mateo County Sheriff's Office and state Department of Fish 
and Game are responding to the sighting, officials said.

There was a previous sighting of the two cubs Friday evening about a block away, in the 800 block of Correas Street around 5:45 p.m., emergency officials said.

Officials warn, if you see a mountain lion, do not approach it - especially one that is feeding or with offspring. Most mountain lions will try to avoid confrontation.

Officials offer these tips:

  • Avoid hiking or jogging when mountain lions are most active—dawn, dusk, and at night.
  • Keep a close watch on small children.
  • If you encounter a mountain lion, do not run; instead, face the animal, make noise, try to look bigger by waving your arms, and throw rocks or other objects.
  • Pick up small children.


For more information about mountain lions, visit www.keepmewild.org.

Jo Owen December 02, 2012 at 01:00 AM
These are NOT mountain lion cubs! They are BOB CAT CUBS! How do I know? Have seen both on my property in Portola Valley mountains.
Fern rosenberg December 02, 2012 at 03:48 AM
You'd think you could tell by the tail. Bobcat: not much. Mountain lion: very long.
George Muteff December 02, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Jo, with all due respect, look at what you claim. You definitively determine the species Based on what? You are making a definitive statement attempting to get anyone that will swallow that you say they are bobcats because: * you saw 2 bobcat cubs on your property in Portola Valley, for goodness sakes. * that would mean that those cubs got from Portola Valley to HMB ... somehow. How do you support that claim? That, Jo, would be a very neat trick. Might want to reconsider your position, huh Jo? Let's get real. Further, and I don't know what members of the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office and state Department of Fish and Game responded, but you can clearly see a gloved hand holding the cub for its movie pose. Call me crazy, but I would have to believe that representatives from either department would know the difference between a cougar cub and a bobcat cub. And you are so demonstrative in your claim. C'mon Jo, be real.
Sandra December 02, 2012 at 09:35 PM
No evidence this photo is of the cubs in question. Nosstatement that cubs were captured. Just sighted. This is probably stock photo. Statement that they were mt. lion was from witness who may not know the difference.
Jo Owen December 02, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Hi, George, Wish you weren't so angry. It turns out that I wanted to retract my statement after submitting it, but didn't know how. The parenthesis around the cub's mouth made me rethink that it could be a mountain lion cub. The important thing is that the wild felines are both in danger and potentially dangerous to humans being in the residential area of town.
George Muteff December 03, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Fair enough Sandra. You raise good points and you are right, to the best of my knowledge. But that does nothing to substantiate Jo's comments; nothing at all. To Jo: angry? that's interesting. So are you really saying that because your 'observation' is yours, that it must be right and further, that anyone that argues your point is angry? Nice. Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain how two alleged bobcat cubs got from Portola Valley, where you claim to have seem them - these same cubs mind you - to HMB. Bobcats are very interesting and busy critters and I have seen them pull off some incredible feats, but I can honestly say that in my 35 years of dealing with bobcats, sometimes on a regular basis and other times not, I have never even heard of a claim that 2 cubs can travel the distance - forget about the terrain - from Portola Valley to HMB (or visa-versa). About the only logical explanation that I can think of that Might make that remotely possible would be if you, or some other human snatched the cubs, put them in a vehicle, drove to HMB and placed those miracle cubs somewhere in the vicinity of the recent sightings...and that's not including getting Mom in that trip, too. Yeah, good luck with that without trapping or severely sedating them all. I do look forward to this answer.
Deborah Hock December 03, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Please, respect the wildlife. They have every right to live here - more-so than we do. If we cannot learn to co-exist with the 4 legged and the winged creatures, how can we respect the 2 legged who cause so much damage. Please, let them just 'be'.
Jo Owen December 03, 2012 at 03:28 AM
George, George, WHERE did I ever say the cubs went from Portola Valley to HMB? That would be totally absurd!! Also, WHERE did I say I only saw 2 bobcats or mountain lions? (I see them all the time up here in the Santa Cruz Mountains.) Please re-read my initial statement, as well as my second statement? Thanks!
George Muteff December 03, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Jo, you say (in part), "George, George, WHERE did I ever say the cubs went from Portola Valley to HMB? That would be totally absurd!!" Jo Owen 5:00 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012 - "These are NOT mountain lion cubs! They are BOB CAT CUBS! How do I know? Have seen both on my property in Portola Valley mountains. Well Jo, that might be where I got the "totally absurd" idea. And you yelled it no less, apparently making it all the more true! That's why I commented. I was hopeful that you might see, then realize how ridiculous your comments were, fess up or alter your comments and be done with it. We all make mistakes. Speaking for myself, I have stupid attacks all the time. It's called part of life. But to yell that you saw those two cubs on your place in Portola Valley and expect anyone to swallow that...well, as I started out - "with all due respect, look at what you claim." I saw and read your 2nd post, but after starting it accusing me of being angry, it just begged for a reasoned response. Maybe it's just the way I read it. Perhaps, and this is only a suggestion, you might want to be more selective with your language in an effort to remove ambiguity &/or add clarity. Just a thought. Hey Jo, nobody died, the sun will still rise tomorrow and with a little luck, the 2 cubs, whatever they are, will have had some nice warm milk (thanks Mom), maybe a rodent or two and be a little larger than they were today.
Jo Owen December 03, 2012 at 04:04 AM
My first statement was meant only to tell of my own experience of sighting bobcats and mountain lions. I also agree with Sandra and Deborah.
Jo Owen December 03, 2012 at 04:13 AM
Glad we ended on a high note, George. :) I hope the cubs in HMB and the cubs in Portola Valley survived the rain storm and that cubs everywhere are safe and sound... "whatever they are, will have had some nice warm milk (thanks Mom), maybe a rodent or two and be a little larger than they were today."
George Muteff December 03, 2012 at 05:09 AM
It's all good Jo. I will add one point here; I hope they are bobcat cubs because I have livestock and a cougar could easily put a stop to that. I have been and am being very diligent in my monitoring them for their safety and I don't mind telling you that when I hear something late at night I go out to check immediately, and I am more than a little nervous now with this latest 'sighting'. We do have at least one young male cougar here that has been sighted multiple times and positively identified as such by experts; and it was not far from me. It is not uncommon for an adult male to have a 100 mile 'territory'. He was spotted within 2 miles of my place multiple times. Yes, that makes me nervous for our critters, which would be no match for a cougar. The horses might get in a lucky kick, but that's about the best I could hope for - which is why I keep a close tab on any unusual activity out there. We also get coyotes yipping and yapping, in large numbers, right across the street South Wavecrest area. Happens all the time and has increased in frequency and volume over the years. With any luck, that cougar will introduce himself to those coyotes making for a happier cougar and a reduction in coyotes. One of the things that is potentially troubling about this particular story is that if true, we also now have a female here. When one does the math, I think we can see the potential.
Corri Stamper December 03, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Just to confirm they are Mountain Lion cubs as they all had long tails. They were sited in our side yard on Miramontes St last week. Wish I had a camera then. Just hope they move on soon as we have livestock too.
Corri Stamper December 03, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Just to confirm they are Mountain Lion cubs as they all had long tails. They were sited in our side yard on Miramontes St last week. Wish I had a camera then. Just hope they move on soon as we have livestock too.
Christa Bigue (Editor) December 03, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Corri, I sure hope they move on, too, but if you see them again and are able to get some photos, please email them to me at christa.bigue@patch.com. Patch would sure love to have some "real" photos to use instead of our "stock" ones. Thank you!
George Muteff December 03, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Corri, were you able to sex the cubs? I ask because with what you say that means that we now have 4 cougars on the coast; the male I mentioned above, the 2 cubs were talking about here, and Mom, who has so far been shy - but I doubt that will last; particularly if she thinks someone is messing with her babies..and those 2 may not be all of her current cubs. If both sighted cubs are male, they may move on; but if there is a female in the bunch we're likely to see more in the future. I doubt that anyone has any problem understanding and believing that with the 'introduction of' and the expansion of cougars here on the coast that it's simply a matter of time before their paths cross our paths in a not so cute manner. They are cute though - if they'd just stay that way..... Thanks for your input Corri and good luck over there.
George Muteff December 04, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Saw this http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county-times/ci_22117994/mountain-lion-cubs-half-moon-bay-shot-wardens this morning. As you can see, this story and the Patch story don't match. How could this happen and we not know? With this piece, I now have questions I didn't have before. Seeing the "stock" photo here, I was under the impression the cubs were quite young. Reading the piece I linked, however, makes it seem the cubs weren't as young as thought. From the piece; "The lions looked to be perhaps 9 months old and thin for their age, around 25-30 pounds, Mackey said." Those are good sized cubs and are big enough to hunt on their own, but that is also a reasonable size to trap and relocate. Also according to the linked piece; "The animals had been prowling near downtown Half Moon Bay for some time, Mackey said, possibly feeding on pets in the area." All the more curious as to why they weren't trapped and relocated. A large part of trapping an animal is knowing their habits, their trails, their likes and dislikes. Seems to me that if it had been known for some time that they were there, that would increase the likelihood for a successful trapping. Seems authorities could have at least tried trapping. The only thing it would have required that apparently wasn't used is time. This is disappointing news.
wolfone December 05, 2012 at 08:19 PM
George, I read her comment and no where did I get that she kidnapped the cubs and relocated them? Well now their dead. Killed by State murders under the guise of Fish & Wildlife. RIP little cubs.
George Muteff December 05, 2012 at 09:02 PM
I'm not sure I understand your comments, wolfone; but then it appears irrelevant at this point anyway. Jo and I seem to have worked out any misunderstanding there may have been, yet it appears that isn't good enough for you. The old saying of leave sleeping dogs lie might fit here. It appears that your sole intention with this post was to rant. Feel better now? Have a nice day, wolfone.

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